via Daniels Counter - ( Not in the news! Tel Aviv: Anti War protest)
This was interesting - Daniel highlights the anti-war protests in Israel on Sunday 16th July - which the mainstream media hardly covered. Also on the 21st of July in Haifa.
“This featured in the Israeli papers Haaretz and Yediot Ahronot, but not on the BBC, Sky or even CNN.
Presumably the existence of a Zionist Peace and Anti War Movement movement in Israel is bad news as it does not fit not the image of ugly Zionism many have, or others who wish Israel to fight Islam for them (U.S.)?
Organizations mentioned :
Gush Shalom Israeli Peace Bloc
New Profile. Movement for the Civilization of Israel
Hadash (Wikipedia on Hadash)
Ta’ayush Israeli / Palestinian Partnership Group
Yesh Gvul (Organization for soldiers refusing to serve in Occupied territories)
The Women’s Coalition for Peace (Palestinian and Israeli)Mossawa, The Advocacy Center for Arab Citizens in Israel.On 21st of July BBC worldservice for the first time reported on an Israeli Peace demonstration in Haifa the same day”
View photos and write up on the Gush Shalom site here
“a Zionist Peace and Anti War Movement” is an oxymoron of sorts.
Putting it simply, i take a part of your land and then ask that we live side by side in peace. This, unfortunately, is a historical fact, and the existence of Hizbullah, amongst others, is its consequence.
“a Zionist Peace and Anti War Movement” is an oxymoron of sorts.
Personally, i feel that that best route would be to forward the cause of amalgamating the Arab-Jew element into a shared government. In other words, turn Israel into a semi Arab state. Failing which, we should cease to call all actions against Israel, ‘terrorism’.
interesting point.
Still in any case i’ve no idea whether those groups protesting consider themselves Zionist etc. etc. - perhaps Daniel can give us an idea.
A shared government is definitely the way forward.
As a political blogger, who is sickened by these latest actions by Israel, I feel the best solution is for the US to cease its biased funding of Israel such as delivering weaponry to an already powerful war machine, 2nd to the US is my calculation of Israel’s military strength… Peace begets peace all else is folly…
Sonia,
I would like to exchange links with you my friend… You may peruse my homepage to view my blog. I love your strong voice of peace…
Sincerely,
Mark (thepoetryman)
Hi Sonia,
“Still in any case i’ve no idea whether those groups protesting consider themselves Zionist”
That thought did, briefly, cross my mind. However,
It matters little whether they consider themselves to be ‘Zionist’, this is implied if they do not seek to dismantle the Jewish state or seek a union with Arabia. Zionism, after all, is the belief in the right of the diasporic Jewish people to unite and maintain a state in the locality now known as Israel.
The peace movement is diverse in Israel. Most are Zionists, some are communists who believe in no state Palestinian or Israeli, and some others are Palestinains who believe like the Peace Zioniststs in a two state solution. To Inquisior I can say if you would read more in depth about the Palestinian founding days and in particular the Zionist Socialists and Labour movements you would discover a lot of pacifist ideology. One example would be Anita Shapita’s work called Land and Power, The zionists resort to force.
I do not agree straight with your analyisis of taken away land. This is today beyond any consideration including amongst many of the Palestinian circles. As many said over and over again, the tragedy of the region here is that tehre are two people with equal rights to one land. It appears to me in that case that a reenegotiated (between the two parties concerned) two state solution is the best in the circumstances. But I am sure you already have made up yoyr minjd, no matter how much people open themselves up for this and fuuly appreciate Arabs as equql neighbours, there will remain folk like you running around and peroclaining Jews should get the fuck out of there. In that way your comment is deeply offensive and counter productive to Palestinians and Israelis who like to get on and live side by side and even embrace Jews in Palestine and Arabs in Israel. Further the crisis at the moment can not be a case on Israel’s legitimacy. Perhaps you would care to find a few words on the desctructive ideologies as is present in Hizbollah. And if you think you want to excuse their actions, because your anti colonial heart cries out for Hizbollah, who people like Galloway glorify, well then it is unclear why we should not excuse unerstand and excuse Israel’s.
Hi Mark (Poetryman) - good to hear from you = I’ve added a link to you. I like your line - don’t burn the flag - wash it!
I do think that the US’s influence has turned it into an unfair situation - where the sides aren’t able to negotiate between themselves equally.
Sigh.
I think there is a large peace camp on both sides..but the reality is the power is in the hands of the hawks.
Daniel,
Your approach to the issue would validate ethnic saturation prior to expropriation. Thus, in time, China, amongst others, would have full and legitimate claim on Tibet. My mind is ‘made up’ on the basis of logic and reason. If you can logically dispute the above, i would be most happy to consider it and reorientate my perspective.
I call for the unification of the Arab and Jewish people, not for the latter to ‘get the fuck out’ of the region. A two-state ’solution’ is a validation of ‘The Colonial Right of Acquisiton and Disposal and expropriation via ethnic saturation.