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	<title>Comments on: Androgyny?</title>
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		<title>By: Ceridwen &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Edinburgh&#8217;s dark side&#8230;Blogpoets goes north of the border&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://shorno.net/2006/06/27/androgyny/comment-page-1/#comment-40133</link>
		<dc:creator>Ceridwen &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Edinburgh&#8217;s dark side&#8230;Blogpoets goes north of the border&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2006 13:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8230;no not to Burke and Hare. Scotland&#8217;s template megageek Jules is back! On the dark side&#8230;while on the blonde side boys will be girls according to Hannah. Mary Dejevsky has been finding that there is such a thing as a woman blogger, thanks to Patroclus although some are not so sure that Sonia&#8217;s media empire is run by a woman as she does not appear to have enough shoes to qualify. Still no news on her hairy armpits. Voyeurs love to google us as may one day R. Spandit formerly of Rothergavenny and Splott. We had a visit from a real politician (ooh!) called Gav who has not been paid by his sponsor so we wish him good luck with the finances and thanks for calling by. Prezza&#8217;s been blogswarmed. I hope it isn&#8217;t catching. Leighton will be on the barricades in Dam Square tonight so let&#8217;s hope he doesn&#8217;t end up in Guantanamo Bay! Joli weekend, mes amis.     Posted by ceridwen Filed in blogpoets [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8230;no not to Burke and Hare. Scotland&#8217;s template megageek Jules is back! On the dark side&#8230;while on the blonde side boys will be girls according to Hannah. Mary Dejevsky has been finding that there is such a thing as a woman blogger, thanks to Patroclus although some are not so sure that Sonia&#8217;s media empire is run by a woman as she does not appear to have enough shoes to qualify. Still no news on her hairy armpits. Voyeurs love to google us as may one day R. Spandit formerly of Rothergavenny and Splott. We had a visit from a real politician (ooh!) called Gav who has not been paid by his sponsor so we wish him good luck with the finances and thanks for calling by. Prezza&#8217;s been blogswarmed. I hope it isn&#8217;t catching. Leighton will be on the barricades in Dam Square tonight so let&#8217;s hope he doesn&#8217;t end up in Guantanamo Bay! Joli weekend, mes amis.     Posted by ceridwen Filed in blogpoets [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
		<link>http://shorno.net/2006/06/27/androgyny/comment-page-1/#comment-36565</link>
		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 16:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey that's a good song! ;-) Pamela Green-Vomyte i commend you on your name - and of course you can be a virgin goddess belly button up..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey that&#8217;s a good song! <img src='http://shorno.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> Pamela Green-Vomyte i commend you on your name - and of course you can be a virgin goddess belly button up..</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Greene-Vomyte</title>
		<link>http://shorno.net/2006/06/27/androgyny/comment-page-1/#comment-36534</link>
		<dc:creator>Pamela Greene-Vomyte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 14:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wanna be the virgin goddess. Only from my belly button up, of course!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanna be the virgin goddess. Only from my belly button up, of course!</p>
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		<title>By: Leighton Cooke</title>
		<link>http://shorno.net/2006/06/27/androgyny/comment-page-1/#comment-36496</link>
		<dc:creator>Leighton Cooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 12:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does that mean we'll all have to learn the Pina Colada song?
http://users.cis.net/sammy/escape.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does that mean we&#8217;ll all have to learn the Pina Colada song?<br />
<a href="http://users.cis.net/sammy/escape.htm" rel="nofollow">http://users.cis.net/sammy/escape.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
		<link>http://shorno.net/2006/06/27/androgyny/comment-page-1/#comment-36483</link>
		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 11:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a good virgin pina colada..</description>
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		<title>By: Leighton Cooke</title>
		<link>http://shorno.net/2006/06/27/androgyny/comment-page-1/#comment-36248</link>
		<dc:creator>Leighton Cooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 16:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crone goddess, maybe. Now all we need is a virgin goddess and a mother goddess. Isis can be the mother. Know any good virgins?</description>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
		<link>http://shorno.net/2006/06/27/androgyny/comment-page-1/#comment-35866</link>
		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:-) thanks leighton...

though one of my old readers Cimurai ( i wonder where he vanished off to? he did say he was a deep sea fisherman..) would insist it was a disguise!

we could get &lt;a rel="nofollow" href="http://ceridwen.wordpress.com"&gt;Ceridwen&lt;/a&gt; up as leading candidate for Goddess..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://shorno.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> thanks leighton&#8230;</p>
<p>though one of my old readers Cimurai ( i wonder where he vanished off to? he did say he was a deep sea fisherman..) would insist it was a disguise!</p>
<p>we could get <a rel="nofollow" href="http://ceridwen.wordpress.com">Ceridwen</a> up as leading candidate for Goddess..</p>
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		<title>By: Leighton Cooke</title>
		<link>http://shorno.net/2006/06/27/androgyny/comment-page-1/#comment-35761</link>
		<dc:creator>Leighton Cooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But do you have hairy armpits like me? All this man/woman stuff gets soooo boring after a while. Sorry, Writer Wallah, but I think it's the men who are fucked up. So now the Goddess should come back and clean up the mess Ã  la Da Vinci Code? Just like mummy used to do. I was listening to this idiot porn publisher on Radio 2 today saying why he did not think porn should be kept out of the hands of children. You have to pay a licence fee to listen to this garbage. Equality is a great ideal and one that we are sadly very far away from. If it's any consolation, Sonia, I saw your pictures and cannot believe you are a man. Unless you have a very clever disguise!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But do you have hairy armpits like me? All this man/woman stuff gets soooo boring after a while. Sorry, Writer Wallah, but I think it&#8217;s the men who are fucked up. So now the Goddess should come back and clean up the mess Ã  la Da Vinci Code? Just like mummy used to do. I was listening to this idiot porn publisher on Radio 2 today saying why he did not think porn should be kept out of the hands of children. You have to pay a licence fee to listen to this garbage. Equality is a great ideal and one that we are sadly very far away from. If it&#8217;s any consolation, Sonia, I saw your pictures and cannot believe you are a man. Unless you have a very clever disguise!</p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
		<link>http://shorno.net/2006/06/27/androgyny/comment-page-1/#comment-35724</link>
		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 14:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should definitely champion a female UN GS among other things. the cult of the feminine is definitely very interesting - especially compared to modern notions of God which definitely give off a masculine air ( though all this anthropomorphism about concepts of the divine is pretty bewildering to me) what makes some sense to me is the mother earth/nature business but i wouldn't really conflate that with a human gendered construct. 

In any case i don't really see how intrinsically more females per se would 'restore' peace - women are perfectly capable of being mean nasty bitches and often are! When people talk about motherhood and maternal instincts and only refer to the 'caring' bit they seem to overlook the aggressive and protective aspect this can also involve. Think tigresses. :-)

It doesn't make sense that women should be excluded from the public sphere, and that's why it should be possible for a person, regardless of their sex, to participate without fear of bias and prejudice. I call myself an 'equalist' and not a feminist as the latter term often gives rise to accusations of favouring women over men. I'm interested in equality. one of the problems with feminism was that we women weren't very happy to give equal rights to men in many cases - so fat lot of good it was talking about equality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should definitely champion a female UN GS among other things. the cult of the feminine is definitely very interesting - especially compared to modern notions of God which definitely give off a masculine air ( though all this anthropomorphism about concepts of the divine is pretty bewildering to me) what makes some sense to me is the mother earth/nature business but i wouldn&#8217;t really conflate that with a human gendered construct. </p>
<p>In any case i don&#8217;t really see how intrinsically more females per se would &#8216;restore&#8217; peace - women are perfectly capable of being mean nasty bitches and often are! When people talk about motherhood and maternal instincts and only refer to the &#8216;caring&#8217; bit they seem to overlook the aggressive and protective aspect this can also involve. Think tigresses. <img src='http://shorno.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t make sense that women should be excluded from the public sphere, and that&#8217;s why it should be possible for a person, regardless of their sex, to participate without fear of bias and prejudice. I call myself an &#8216;equalist&#8217; and not a feminist as the latter term often gives rise to accusations of favouring women over men. I&#8217;m interested in equality. one of the problems with feminism was that we women weren&#8217;t very happy to give equal rights to men in many cases - so fat lot of good it was talking about equality.</p>
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		<title>By: writer wallah</title>
		<link>http://shorno.net/2006/06/27/androgyny/comment-page-1/#comment-35701</link>
		<dc:creator>writer wallah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sonia,

I've just finished re-reading the Da Vinci Code and he makes some great references to how once upon a time, the female godess and the celebration of femininity was the religion of the day until the Church decided to change matters. The basic point is, that a man's world is a destructive one, and more female interaction is needed to restore the natural order of peace.

So maybe we should champion a female UN GS.

"Behind every great man, is a woman."</description>
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<p>I&#8217;ve just finished re-reading the Da Vinci Code and he makes some great references to how once upon a time, the female godess and the celebration of femininity was the religion of the day until the Church decided to change matters. The basic point is, that a man&#8217;s world is a destructive one, and more female interaction is needed to restore the natural order of peace.</p>
<p>So maybe we should champion a female UN GS.</p>
<p>&#8220;Behind every great man, is a woman.&#8221;</p>
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