“Britain is waging a ‘war against evil’ - John Reid in an interview with the Daily Express expounded the following views:
“This is a war against evil, make no mistake,” he said. “Evil is the same, whether it’s dressed in Nazi uniforms, the supposed socialists of the Red Brigades and so on, or the IRA in Northern Ireland.” { heh, and the same if it’s a nation-state..}
“The terrorists want to commit mass extermination. And if they can get their hands on the means to do it, they will. These people want to destroy the state of Israel. They want to destroy every Jew they can, and every non-Muslim they can.”
hmm now that sounds a bit funny to me -not the intentions of the terrorist to kill non-muslims -that seems to be very clear - but its not like any ‘non-muslims’ haven’t been ‘destroyed’ as well.. [And what bloody difference does it make who anyone is trying to kill. surely the point is that killing anyone is 'not nice' to say the least. !! ] Oh but maybe that wasn’t their aim - those guys just ‘got’ in the way. Oh right, so that makes it all ‘fine’ then - nothing to get ‘het up’ about. Really! this kind of ‘partisan’ thinking is very irritating - ( and you see it everywhere you go. people appear to be only bothered about their particular little tribe. when will wake up and smell the coffee and realize its this kind of ‘tribalism’ and clicqueyness that causes so much trouble?) where is the human rights discourse? - the right of ALL humans to life - regardless of nationality, ethnicity, race, religion, football club, goth or any other line of division you can think up ( and boy are there lots!) Now that to me would be a sophisticated, democratic, liberal, fair and enlightened approach. Anything else smacks of exactly the kind of faulty and deadly thinking ‘terrrorists’ display.
“These evil terrorists are intent on gaining the technology of mass destruction,” he added.
“And the international nature of this extremist, violent fundamentalism adds up to a bigger terrorist threat than we have ever faced before.”
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its funny how the discourse of ‘evil’ is still used even in an allegedly ’scientific’ and non-religious way. What is evil but a ‘religious’ concept - bound up with predetermination and all sorts of other silly ideas. Hah . Anyhow, the point is its funny how this bloke says ‘all evil is the same’ replace evil and say stick in something like ‘all killing is the same- its wrong’ and voila! you have a very good point indeed. maybe mr. reid needs to be a bit more reflexive as he clearly doesn’t seem to see the irony in what he’s saying.
Human rights first.
As for John Reid, he certainly seems rather ignorant on certain matters. Selective ignorance or simple ignorance or forced ignorance (threats)?
The consequences of this type of propaganda is most destructive. When we all need truth to actually catch the real culprits. It is a well known philosophy, never to gie in to terrorism.
One just needs to see the connections between, international banking mafia, PNAC, and all the inconsistencies and cover-ups, to find disturbing links.
Have a look at “Project Censored” website, there is much revealing information collected.
Could the real terrorists be in fact quite diferent to the claimed ‘islamist terrorism’ problem. Beyond a shadow of a doubt IMHO.
When the government now says we need stability in Iraq befroe a pull-out, is this not just an invitation to more black flag terrorist attacks? Also, why the torture? Why the disrespect for international law and geneva conventions? Why all the propaganda and cover-ups?
Unresolved matters:
JFK, RFK, Martin Luther King, and Malcolm X assassinations.
The attack on pearl harbour.
Reichstag fire and funding of Hitler’s rise to power. (Prescott Bush)
Enron Scandal.
Lincoln assassination.
911, 711, and Madrid bombings.
PNAC and HJS organisations and mafia links.
Bilderberg organisation.
Fractional reserve banking and the Washington consensus.
The role of the treasury in the British government.
The role of the federal reserve in the US government.
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good questions. ive had a very quick glimpse at the project censored site, definitely will have to look through in detail when i get outta work!
“surely the point is that killing anyone is ‘not nice’ to say the least. !!”
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Absolute rubbish!
Sorry Comrade Sonia, You are behaving like a loony peacenik on this one.
When evil people are killed for a just cause then that is always for the good.
Bad killings are only those where the innocents are unjustly murdered by criminals, terrorists or drunken drivers.
When free nations wage wars against cruel dictatorships like Hitlers ‘GErmany, Stalins Russia or Saddams Iraaq- in such cases the deaths are justified and those who lose their lives in such just wars are sure to go to heaven and have jolly goood time.
man you sound just like the terrorists. ‘go to heaven’ - martyrdom - what’s the bloody difference! yeah don’t worry id much rather be a ‘loony peacenik’ ..
When one considers terrorists = Bush admin/Blair admin/Al Qaeda… it makes sense.
But how many really realise this?
I think John Reid is just spinning here.
“When evil people are killed for a just cause then that is always for the good.”
Meghdutam, are you conceding that if someone decides that you are evil, that they have the right to kill you and that would be a good thing? This is, after all, the principle you are applying, so it must apply to you too, no?
Or is your opinion as to who is evil and who isn’t evil the only opinion that matters? Are you “obviously” not evil while others “obviously” are? Who decides this? Who decides the “just” cause? Right-thinking people?
Once you justify pre-emptive murder you are on a very slippery slope, no? You are in danger of saying that if country X executes a pre-emptive strike on another (let’s say Nazi Germany attacking Soviet Russia) it is evil but if country Y executes a pre-emptive strike on another (the USA attacking Iraq) then it’s justified. Why? Because Nazi Germany is reviled and the USA is celebrated?
Is it not the action itself which defines an act of evil, not the perpetrator?
If not, then you agree with the proposition that a “coalition of the good” in the house next door to you can systematically smear the characters of all members of your household and then - with huge amounts of public support all the way down the street - annihilate you and the people you share your house with?
Killing is violent and evil. Full stop. There is nothing glorious in taking the life of another.
Bringing people to justice and making them answer seriously for their crimes is necessary. But committing murder for the sake of vengeance or profit and justifying it by appealing to simplistic notions of “good” and “evil” is ugly at best and monstrous at worst.